There are some key premises in their thought about God’s love and goodness: God essentially is both loving and good, and love is essential to good relationships. However, violence (e.g., with punishment of sin) is incompatible with these qualities of God and good relationships. So, how does God deal with injustice, and evil? It seems it is by His absorbing it into Himself, then forgiving and forgetting it.[1] God overcomes evil creatively by His goodness.
Now, McLaren and our other authors are deeply, and rightly, concerned about God’s goodness and justice being realized on earth as it is in heaven. They realize justice needs to be lived out now, and not just after we are with the Lord in heaven.
Yet, if God is truly good, just, and holy (i.e., utterly pure, righteous, and undefiled by sin), it seems He would hate evil and must exact punishment for it. This fits with God’s self-description in Exodus 34:6-7, where He discloses He is not only loving, compassionate, faithful, and more, but also that He will not leave the guilty unpunished. We can relate to this, for if a human judge did not punish evil actions, we would recognize that judge’s action to be unjust.
Nevertheless, this view is not an option for McLaren, or even Jones, for it treats His holiness as absolute, and it requires that God act retributively in justice. Evidently, then, on their views, God can choose not to punish sin. However, this implication leaves us with two disastrous results. First, God would be defective in terms of being truly holy, just, and even good because He would not necessarily be repulsed by evil.
Second, if God can choose not to punish sin, then He would punish it simply based upon His willing something to be wrong, and not due to His character of being just and holy. Yet, if so, then it seems God is arbitrary in His ethical requirements and even His character, the latter of which McLaren seems to presuppose is not arbitrary. This result makes McLaren’s view of God vulnerable to the Euthyphro objection, that whatever God wills is right, simply because He willed it. But that raises the prospects that on McLaren’s view, God could will all sorts of things we clearly know are immoral. Thus, if God can be arbitrary, He would not inspire “fear” in the sense of reverence, awe, and love, but instead deep terror. For on McLaren’s view of God, He could blow up in rage, the very kind of God McLaren and others reject as unacceptable. Even though McLaren wants to affirm God is good, and His character does not evolve (while our interpretations do), his view cannot sustain God’s goodness. For, to be truly good, a person must be not only truly loving, but also truly just. Yet, God’s justice is arbitrary on McLaren’s and others’ views, and therefore they cannot preserve God’s justice. Sadly, this leaves us with a God who is not truly good – and thus not worthy of worship.
[1] E.g., see McLaren, The Story We Find Ourselves In (San Francisco: Jossey Bass, 2003), 153.
Consequences of sin and wrongdoings are already determined by the standards provided by our objective source of morality-God. He does not just execute justice on those who have sinned or those who acted wrongly, but whatever the case, his just judgement is inherent in the results of the victim’s free will. We run a way from his loving presence only to encounter his angry presence.
Why must one insist on God’s absence in the universe only because of prevailing states of self destructive behaviors by those ignore the rules of objective moral knowledge? I’m case of natural evil, how can we appeal to the perversions of moral knowledge? In my opinion natural evil can be attributed to the free will of celestial spirits determined to create disorders in God’s creation and inflict pain on human body.
Hi George! I am catching up kind of late with your comments. I need to really think this through much more on natural evil, but Garry DeWeese did an interesting lecture for my program years ago called “Solving the Problem of Evil.” In part, he addressed a “free process defense,” as something parallel to the free will defense PLantinga gave against the logical problem of evil.